Question is, if you think it's just a "marketing strategy" or a game, why do you keep hanging around? If you think that, then there's absolutely no reason for you to pursue learning more, since it's all clearly a head game we're playing with you.

Though I DO think that if something is oathbound, then it shouldn't even be mentioned in a public forum.

Well first of all as I understand it, we have the forums and email lists to meet eachother, and meet others, get to know them and eachother better, and as an avenue for students to meet teachers. Not as a place where we are going to teach just anyone who says they might be interested, or are simply curious.

Essentially what has to be understood is that we worked very hard to get to where we could be initiated, those who teach worked very hard to become teachers. We aren't just going to toss this out to whoever thinks they want it, just because they say so. This is a very important part of our lives. It certainly isn't just a hobby or a club. People go through training and all the rest because they feel compelled by it, and have proven themselves to those who also had to prove themselves. It is open to sincer seekers, as they can find teachers willing to take them on. Unfortunately there are not enough teachers to go around yet, someday perhaps, but then perhaps not. Feri isn't a tradition for the masses, its for those who are willing to do the work to become real priests and priestesses. Sort of on par with Orisha tradition training. it takes years to really learn enough to do the work, and you have to find good teachers who will share their knowledge with you, and you have to be willing to learn and work hard.

That's why the forums. No Marketing strategy. Most of us could care less if anyone knows anything about Feri.

Sara you are absolutely correct and I made the post before my thoughts of how silent this board is caught up with me. The ha prayer itself does not seem as something secret, but it is something passed down and I mistakenly joined this tribe thinking that here would be discussion of basics of Feri that the uninitiated student could debate amoungst themselves or seek an new perspective from initiates, but since there is not any discussion here other than who looks down upon whom and where are all the teachers, I am now choosing to invoke my witchy pyramid's base: remain silent.

I think that Awen is being rude because, I am sure, this person felt mocked, inspite of the fact that I made my intentions of silence clear. On the same note You are being rude about this by insinuating that I am going behind my teacher's back and that I would knowingly betray her good faith in me. Now as far as I know, nothing my teacher has passed to me was labled as secret and no oaths have been taken. . . but with silence of the board about ANYTHING, that leads to the idea that maybe ANY discussion on Feri is taboo. So as a Feri initiate correct me without insulting my intelligence or integrity as a witch.

It could be helpful if an intiate such as yourself would lead guided discussions about the basics, instead of leaving everyone here wondering where the teachers are and whom we should sneer at ( which I find positively ridiculous.) So please, Sara, take point and guide us who would learn. And in all reality if this is not possible by you, or any other authority figure within the faith, than maybe this tribe should be closed. Because when I joined here I was looking for a format in which perspective could be shared and I am sure that in this, I am not the only individual, judging by Awen's reaction to my silence, that feels this way.

This made me think.........Is the 'ha' prayer oathbound material for you? (that question is to Sara)

(for Mary) Did your teacher share the 'ha' prayer as oathbound? I did not learn this tool as oathbound, and to be clear, I am still a student.