So it is only in the last several years that I have become aware of how strong my talents and power is, and even more recently that I have seen the devastation I can cause if I'm not careful. While most witches I meet are low on the energy end of things, they get very caught up in the details of spell craft. I on the other hand, if I actually understand what I've done, I may have killed innocent people because I let loose psychic bombs-spells without knowing too much about spell craft or protections. I have been wanting to take classes for some time now, but couldn't make it a priority since money issues have only recently been permanently resolved. I'm supporting myself completely for the first time in my life at a financial level I am comfortable with. so classes are actually a possibility in the foreseeable future. My post here is more or less seeking comments or maybe advice about your reasons for creating spells, ways of binding protections and such into them, etc.. Let me expound a bit more;
I was raised around eastern philosophies more than western, in particular a grandchild of sufiism called Subud. Then at age 11 I became a born again United Pentecostal, much to the chagrin of my Hippy, Jewish mother. So my image of witches was of course a bit skewed by that, I didn't realize till rather recently that I thought casting spells was something people did only when they wanted to manipulate someone or something, wanted to express anger or exert power over someone else. I cast two spells in the last ten years to express anger, a great deal of rage and anger. And I think I killed people in the process, one person each time, people I never met, totally innocent Goddess knows what was going on in their lives to attract that energy to them, but I feel responsible none-the-less. Am I accepting too much responsibility ifI never met them? I dunno, but if I can throw around that much energy, I'm no longer willing to do it randomly, I am willing to accept responsibility and don't want to throw somuch energy out that someone actually gets killed at all, it wasn't what the spells were supposed to accomplish, but Gods knows I was that angry!!!
Opinions, advice, etc.?
I was raised around eastern philosophies more than western, in particular a grandchild of sufiism called Subud. Then at age 11 I became a born again United Pentecostal, much to the chagrin of my Hippy, Jewish mother. So my image of witches was of course a bit skewed by that, I didn't realize till rather recently that I thought casting spells was something people did only when they wanted to manipulate someone or something, wanted to express anger or exert power over someone else. I cast two spells in the last ten years to express anger, a great deal of rage and anger. And I think I killed people in the process, one person each time, people I never met, totally innocent Goddess knows what was going on in their lives to attract that energy to them, but I feel responsible none-the-less. Am I accepting too much responsibility ifI never met them? I dunno, but if I can throw around that much energy, I'm no longer willing to do it randomly, I am willing to accept responsibility and don't want to throw somuch energy out that someone actually gets killed at all, it wasn't what the spells were supposed to accomplish, but Gods knows I was that angry!!!
Opinions, advice, etc.?
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Re: Untrained talent
Mon, July 9, 2007 - 9:29 PMEnergy is Energy is Energy... as the phrase goes.
There is a lot in this post that I hope others respond to, my one comment is this: Unless you physically took a weapon and harmed someone with it, you did not kill. A persons soul would not allow the energy from someone else to manipulate it to that extent. At least, this is my understanding. -
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Re: Untrained talent
Wed, July 11, 2007 - 11:27 PMYes, I understand this too, I never even met the people who died. But I also know that, while I did not pick up a weapon, I know my energy and I know I through a lot of random, wild, murderous rage. My primary point here is that I don't want to be doing that anymore. I need to find some grounding for that rage. It is born of a life time of pain.
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Re: Untrained talent
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 2:59 PMI realize this is old but just found it.. Actually if you believe in the spiritual reality that makes magic possible, then if magic can kill, and you started it, then you are responsible for it. The question becomes whether the act is justified, and what kind of personal character you are building. But it requires actually doing the work, if someone happens to die just because you got angry, it's important to not get caught up in a false sense of omnipotence and guilt. Many people are weak and do not have spiritual protection, so the stuff about "a person's soul would not allow it" is actually bunk, sorry. If you call down forces of destruction and unleash that into the world, you are responsible for the outcome.
So be very afraid because magic is real and you can do bad stuff with it. The notion that you can only do good stuff with magic or spirit is very naive and pollyanna and may get you in a lot of trouble. You can do a lot of good with it too.. but it takes discernment to know the difference sometimes. Which is why most Faeries I've met don't curse lightly and if they do watch out.
My question to the original poster is "how do you know" if you didn't know the people? If you did consciously perform acts of unjustified magical murder, then I would recommend spiritual baths and also lighting candles for those people with prayers to elevate their consciousness in the spirit. You would definitely need to do a series (like 13 or 21 days) of hyssop baths and a prayer like Psalm 51, and probably then some Run Devil Run type baths and fumigations with something like Psalm 91, used for exorcisms -- maleficent works attract maleficent spirits and entities and you want to get rid of them to allow more benefic powers access to your sphere.
You would also want to invoke the help of your ancestors, to help guide you on a right path. You would want to do that anyway even if you didn't actually do anything intentionally wrong. But a wise man said "by their fruits you will know" -- it's not intentions its the results you produce that matter.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Untrained talent
Tue, October 23, 2007 - 2:19 PMI have to agree with Mike.
Anger can be an excelent way to draw up energy, but it is really important to only use it to energize the work not direct the work. Calling on dark forces can be very usefull in magical workings, and it is important to understand what all the potential outcomes may be. "Work-It-Out."
Feri is not affraid of doing such work, because this is taught with am overwhelming sense of responsibility over ones creations. We create our reality, therfore we are responsible for what we create. This is where the much due caution comes in, for when, a feri casts a curse. They are willing to take the responsibility for what they create.
Backing up and taking responsibility is a start. The cleansing baths are also very eccential. There is also a need to add some maturity to the emotion of anger. It is ok to be angry, but is that the best frame of mind to be in when you are creating your reality. You are in fact weaving anger into your own reality, and anger can almost become an entity of its own - feeding on itself. This is where dieties and/or entities can move in that may not be the most bennificial. It is pollyanna to think that dieties are always looking out for oue best interests, as well as, 'will not give you more than you can handle.' It is my experience, if a person is dumb enough to ask for it, they will give it to you.
So review all possibilities, look at what you may be inviting into your life. What are you creating??? Is this the reality you are looking for? Do devination first!
Feri is a dark art and it is not for everyone. Also, because someone has moved dark energy, does not mean feri is for them. I am in 100% agreement that education is needed. Sometimes what is needed in dealing with anger is anger management. Feri is not thearpy, and can in fact fuck peoples life up. It often fucks up the lives of those studying it. The reason for this is because it is moving and shifting a lot of energy very quickly. Anything that needs to be out of a persons life often gets perged - dramaticly! That's feri. Our gods are harsh. That's why we love them... lol This is not to say that feri is not for you, just some more to consider when spinning your magic and creating yourself as the student.
The most usefull tool I can offer, that you can put into imediate use is - spicific wording!!!!! Be very spicific with your spell crafting. The more spicific you are the more clear your High Self get the message. It is just like focusing a beam of light - it can be difused or as focused as a lazer. And a lazer is more likely to effectively hit its target.
Much Blessings
StarChildI have to agree with Mike.
Anger can be an excellent way to draw up energy, but it is really important to only use it to energize the work not direct the work. Calling on dark forces can be very useful in magical workings, and it is important to understand what all the potential outcomes may be. "Work-It-Out."
Feri is not afraid of doing such work, because this is taught with am overwhelming sense of responsibility over ones creations. We create our reality, therefore we are responsible for what we create. This is where the much due caution comes in, for when, a Feri casts a curse. They are willing to take the responsibility for what they create.
Backing up and taking responsibility is a start. The cleansing baths are also very essential. There is also a need to add some maturity to the emotion of anger. It is ok to be angry, but is that the best frame of mind to be in when you are creating your reality. You are in fact weaving anger into your own reality, and anger can almost become an entity of its own - feeding on itself. This is where deities and/or entities can move in that may not be the most beneficial. It is pollyanna to think that deities are always looking out for our best interests, as well as, 'will not give you more than you can handle.' It is my experience, if a person is dumb enough to ask for it, they will give it to you.
So review all possibilities, look at what you may be inviting into your life. What are you creating??? Is this the reality you are looking for? Do divination first!
Feri is a dark art and it is not for everyone. Also, because someone has moved dark energy, does not mean Feri is for them. I am in 100% agreement that education is needed. Sometimes what is needed in dealing with anger is anger management. Feri is not therapy, and can in fact fuck peoples life up. It often fucks up the lives of those studying it. The reason for this is because it is moving and shifting a lot of energy very quickly. Anything that needs to be out of a persons life often gets purged - dramatically! That's feri. Our gods are harsh. That's why we love them... lol This is not to say that Feri is not for you, just some more to consider when spinning your magic and creating yourself as the student.
The most useful tool I can offer, that you can put into immediate use is - specific wording!!!!! Be very specific with your spell crafting. The more specific you are the more clear your High Self get the message. It is just like focusing a beam of light - it can be diffused or as focused as a laser. And a laser is more likely to effectively hit its target.
Much Blessings
StarChild
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